tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post8678022641251063033..comments2023-11-03T06:14:44.595-04:00Comments on Altered Lions and Sacrificial Lambs: Things that make you go Hmmm...or, WTF?ALASLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13137762850776009581noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-63840549113135202492009-11-17T15:37:17.968-05:002009-11-17T15:37:17.968-05:00To the blog authors, I never mentioned this blog s...To the blog authors, I never mentioned this blog specifically. In fact I refused to mention where the quotes came from. Our intention was to be all encompassing by generically naming communities, blogs etc. I simply added the link here, and to other communities as well, that had questions regarding the message.Ninapolitanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00277109560944149193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-74979268138070915472009-11-17T13:11:38.433-05:002009-11-17T13:11:38.433-05:00I also wanted to point out to the anonymous poster...I also wanted to point out to the anonymous poster, "PJJ0930", above....<br /><br />FFN TOS aside, if it is a fixated and redistributable work (that includes derivitave works of fan-fiction), it is AUTOMATICALLY copyrighted, whether the author expresses it so or not.JoVersifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17973353596511390165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-32041554911330117542009-11-17T13:03:54.596-05:002009-11-17T13:03:54.596-05:00I just wanted to address one thing here because it...I just wanted to address one thing here because it is bothering me.<br /><br />You have been outspoken with your disagreement as to Christina's work being "copyrighted".<br /><br />It IS copyrighted. Automatically upon her first posting it on the internet... upon her first producing the words and story of the wonderful BB and his love.<br /><br />It is considered second-generation, derivative work and is ABSOLUTELY COPYRIGHTED to TBY789. <br /><br />Technically, ALL TWILIGHT FANFICTION is a copyright violation to the NON-PUBLIC DOMAIN, copyrighted material of Stephenie Meyer (disclamer or not)... however, she let's us do it, so that's WIN.<br /><br />It all gets a little murky when it comes to fan fiction, but derivitave works are 100% copyrightable to the author of such work. You should read up on it. It's tedious, but it comes down to this: All fan-fiction authors' works of fiction/poetry/etc. are automatically copyrighted.JoVersifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17973353596511390165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-88384585200239220892009-11-17T12:27:26.335-05:002009-11-17T12:27:26.335-05:00I completely agree Kay. I would not copyright my s...I completely agree Kay. I would not copyright my story, but I did want to understand it. I use ffn as a hobby, something that is fun for me and gives me a break from RL. I don't think people should use it to publicize a story and if they do copyright they should use the appropriate sites. Last night was the first time I had heard of anyone copyrighting anything on ffn.Keira @ Lazy Book Lovershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08148549249171291369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-84341135345362949372009-11-17T12:20:47.077-05:002009-11-17T12:20:47.077-05:00MaitresseSaint:
For the human fics, sure you can....MaitresseSaint:<br /><br />For the human fics, sure you can. I think it would be awfully difficult to copyright a plot using SM's vampires with their traits. But this is Fanfiction. The story that was pulled and posted was on Fanfiction and Twilighted, not Wordpress, or Amazon's publishing site..and the one that Lillie Cullen uses..the story was posted to us, as a Twilight fanfiction story, with it's characters. I understand now that is was each individual that made the decision to pull their stories, but I think that those that are interested in possibly a future publishing of a story should keep those to the sites devoted for such a thing, and I think FF TOS should tweek their terms of service. Fanfiction was developed to pretty much pay homage to great books, movies, etc. It shouldn't be used as a way to publicize a story that you might consider publishing in the future. That's just my opinion. Whether others share it, who knows.Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09324717707449771403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-20475790425127141212009-11-17T12:20:05.537-05:002009-11-17T12:20:05.537-05:00I do know other people have said things, but most ...I do know other people have said things, but most have been said out of jealousy (in my opinion). I haven't read any other blog posts just what people have said on twitter. <br /><br />I love the fandom gives back and Tina you know how shocked I was at last nights rumors. I made that clear in the meeting last night. I was ready to cry.<br /><br />Like I posted on Lj I think a lot of things could have been avoided with a simpler explanation. <br /><br />I got an email that says you can copyright the plot and many ff authors do. I have never heard of it, but it came from a reliable source.Keira @ Lazy Book Lovershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08148549249171291369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-6503845859552157622009-11-17T12:18:52.339-05:002009-11-17T12:18:52.339-05:00First off, I must say that I love this blog. You ...First off, I must say that I love this blog. You guys are great. <br /><br />As to the copyright BS, well, she is not the first to say her stuff is copyrighted. I read a different story a few weeks ago, where the author claimed her work was copyrighted as well. <br /><br />FF is not a place for copyrighted work. It is a site designed for people that enjoy writing and creating a different set of scenarios based off of published works. We share our stories with the FF community for enjoyment, at least I do. <br /><br />Thank you to you all for calling out authors that somehow misunderstand copyright laws and what contitutes original works of literature.<br /><br />Take care! <br /><br />PJJ0930Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-73057399901563940342009-11-17T11:31:32.674-05:002009-11-17T11:31:32.674-05:00My response to Lola:
Lola: Thank you so much for...My response to Lola: <br /><br />Lola: Thank you so much for reading this post and believe me when I say that I do agree with your decision to pull your stories because of the attention that both The Fandom Gives Back and you ladies are receiving for putting it all together. And, perhaps if the roles were reversed, I would have come to the decision to do the same on a temporary basis only, as you are doing. I completely agree with your decision to do this because I, too, would not want the negative attention that could be received while promoting this great cause, and I don't want anything to take away from it. I admire the honesty of the statement you posted and I just have to say, "thank you".<br /><br />On the "perks" issue, I want you to know how I feel about this. It happens, I've seen it personally, and outside of this fandom, it's even happened to me. I look at it like this: you and the other chairpersons have worked hard to put this together, and I DO believe you DO deserve some type of recognition - and even some perks - whether it be an early showing of New Moon, autographed memoribillia, etc, etc. My issue is that if these types of things are received, perhaps it's just best to keep those sorts of things amongst yourselves, So when I read, and others read, that tby789 has pulled her story "Due to an opportunity that has been presented in light of recent, unanticipated media developments"...things like this don't occur. It's raised some serious questions, most of which won't be spoken out loud.<br /><br />And yes, I would really like to finish Let Your Light Shine. Tina, who is on this blog, recommended you as an author and I just started reading from the bottom up. I love it. I was on chapter 5. But, if you are too busy, as I am sure that you are, I will wait patiently for the reposting.Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09324717707449771403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-58938353821260478062009-11-17T11:17:17.151-05:002009-11-17T11:17:17.151-05:00Okay, I had to remove my last comment cause I'...Okay, I had to remove my last comment cause I'm dense, but can someone PLEASE explain copyrighting fan fictions?? Can we copyright plots? How do you that change the names?Keira @ Lazy Book Lovershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08148549249171291369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-21854032017581167142009-11-17T11:13:47.406-05:002009-11-17T11:13:47.406-05:00http://ninapolitan.livejournal.com/2310.html
a po...http://ninapolitan.livejournal.com/2310.html<br /><br />a post in regard to whether or not we're benefiting.<br /><br />Thank you.Ninapolitanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00277109560944149193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-85513059118392926022009-11-17T11:05:47.451-05:002009-11-17T11:05:47.451-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Keira @ Lazy Book Lovershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08148549249171291369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-71727455415501214692009-11-17T10:18:50.252-05:002009-11-17T10:18:50.252-05:00Hi there! I just wanted to pop in and respond. It...Hi there! I just wanted to pop in and respond. It's true that I pulled LYLS and ALE temporarily, and primarily due to FGB attention (you'll note in the A/N i mentioned that if you're in the process of reading to PM me - I've already sent the word doc to many readers who were left hanging, so please let me know if you want it). <br /><br />I understand everything you're saying, and trust me, I battled with the same questions myself because I am a complete smut lover and advocate. There is no question that what is being offered in the auction is M rated. But the dilemma I faced was this: suppose we wanted PFach or Billy Burke or whoever to tweet to support our cause and they read some of Chapter 26 of ALE where Edward has anal sex with Bella and records it on a cell phone...hm...Would he/they want to tweet a link to a blog with our pen names? The answer is simply I don't know. I'm not ashamed at ALL of my stories, and I love the smut. I just figured for a temporary measure it was the responsible thing to do because my name IS associated with this and if it somehow took any credibility away from what we were doing, I would feel horrible. <br /><br />But your point is well taken: Twigasm gift baskets with sex toys, o/s offerings of smut...it's not exactly a mystery who we're catering to. So, ultimately, I made the choice that it was best for my peace of mind to pull it for a few weeks. Not everyone agrees that it was necessary and that's okay.<br /><br />It's true that this was pushed by YOU, and THANK YOU. This effort is funded and advocated by all of us. This is not just "ours". Seriously, thank you for saying that. It has been important to me that this has belonged to EVERYONE, and just because there are three names on the blog doesn't make it ours. I understand your frustration and it's a point well taken. There are several ways to approach it and I chose a differet tack. Agree to disagree? I hope so.<br /><br />I love this blog and hope that you continue to speak your mind about anything that is going on in the community. You can be mad, frustrated, whatever with me - I understand. We're all just people trying to figure out the best way to do things. But let me reassure you of one thing: WE ARE GETTING NO PERKS. This is the only point with your post that I take major issue. We have put so much time into this effort and so far it has been MORE than worth it to see what everyone is willing to do on behalf of our joint fandom. But please stand corrected: there has been NO benefit to me other than seeing how awesome this community can be when we come together and NONE of us would accept anything of the sort.<br /><br />Sorry if this comment is disorganized. I'm getting ready for work, dressing my kid, and scarfing down some cereal but wanted to address what you wrote. I won't speak for tby789 here because that is her piece. I will say that the fact they were both taken down yesterday was a coincidence - she didn't know I was going to pull for a hiatus and I didn't know she was pulling yesterday until after it was down.<br /><br />Thanks for all you do and feel free to contact me at lolalovesshoes@gmail.com.<br /><br />xoxo<br />LolaShoesLohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06622646838983722274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7052435373039930704.post-1666570779750212512009-11-17T07:52:53.612-05:002009-11-17T07:52:53.612-05:00WOW, so I guess a lot is happening with that. I fe...WOW, so I guess a lot is happening with that. I feel a little out of the loop living all the way out in Oz but I guess theres a lot of publicity going on over seas. I havent heard anything abot it really so I'm just a little lost (-:Arabellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10422106015002025359noreply@blogger.com